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What's actually healthy despite most people thinking it's not?

Put baby on the floor. Babies don't always need to be in a bouncer, swing, jumper, walker, rocker, chair etc. They do great on the floor in a safe space.

Just don't put them in the corner. I saw this instructional dance video from the 80s where they cautioned us that nobody puts Baby in a corner.

I carried a watermelon...

I remember a few years ago this pic went viral. It showed a woman sitting on a seat in an airport looking at her phone while her baby laid on a blanket on the floor.

So much vitriol was hurled at her. So unnecessary. The baby even had a toy in its hand. Babies NEED floor time and they need to learn independent play.

God forbid a woman get a break.

And she was probably having the baby wiggle it out before the plane so they did not disturb anybody.

When my kids were that small I'd lay on the floor next to them. They loved crawling over daddy, getting tickles and lovins, and i loved their drool covered kisses. Man, I wish I could relive those moments.

I miss when I could just lay a baby on the floor and they'd still be there when I got back. Shit hits the fan once they become mobile. So much easier to grab a snack or use the toilet when you can just set them down.

My three month old actively demands being on the floor. He will squirm and moan until he's placed on his yoga mat and can start doing his workout. He started with moving only his left leg, then the right one and then the arms. By now he's training his core muscles, trying to sit up and turn from one side to another.

It's like a built in training program he knows he has to follow and he gets really stressed out if he can't get his exercise in.

Be careful with this. My first would walk around his yoga mat all day, crawling around and getting stronger. Next thing I knew he was doing multiple pistol squats, handstands, side crow. When I’d walk past he’d feint a right hook and say “that’s two for flinching.”

That's both adorable and awesome!

I remember my aunt once telling me "If babies were as fragile as we all think they are none of them would ever make it."

Hell yeah, floor time!

Aren't the bouncers and walkers generally bad for them too?

Seated walkers are bad for them. Push walkers are great.

Sleeping all day when you’re exhausted..

As my trainer says: if you’re actually falling asleep, you clearly needed it.

I really like the reading test. If I get really sleepy while reading, then I take a nap because I needed the rest. If I’m not sleep deprived, then I have no issues staying up while reading a book during the day. So most times when I’m debating taking a nap I’ll just relax and read and see what happens

I have the opposite issue where if I start reading I'll ignore being tired and suddenly it's 5 am.

"One More chapter, I just need to see if they get where they're going"

"Ok but now I gotta see if they did the thing at the place "

"Oh woah that thing did NOT go the way I thought. Now what are they gonna do?"

"Hahaha yeah! That was aweso- is that the fucking sun?"

I always knew I stayed up too late when the birds started chirping. Happened a lot when I was much younger.

Oof, I had that happen this morning. I am not young anymore so it hits hard now. 😂

That’s a genius low pressure way to check in with your body. Book doubles as entertainment and a sleep diagnostic tool.

By that metric, I must be chronically exhausted. I can't read to save my life anymore. I have so many books that I want to get through, but as soon as I start one, no matter what time of day it is, I'm asleep. I hate it.

Same! It really bums me out. I feel like an idiot telling people that.

I’m there. Loved reading when I was younger, now I can’t keep my eyes open.

Exactly. Rest isn’t lazy it’s your body finally getting a say in the schedule.

What I hear is that sleeping too much isn't necessary bad for you, but if it's a lot more than normal, it may be a symptom of something else that's wrong with you

Or you're depressed. Make sure your mental health is in a good place if you're sleeping all day.

Agree. Sleep can be escapism, too.

This. Sometimes sleep is a very effective way of escaping reality. Sometimes even nightmares are more comfortable than dealing with real life.

Or narcolepsy.

That was misdiagnosed for 20+ years.

Because they said you were depressed.

No, I'm not bitter.

“You’re a single parent, of course you’re tired!”

No. Some people have fucking legitimate sleep disorders and when you flippantly dismiss their VALID CONCERNS you’re just adding to the hell that is their life.

Also not bitter. Thanks for asking.

Telling my husband this as I nap for the second time today!

Most people do actually need at least one nap

We used to have it as a norm in society that around 2 pm everyone took a little break and some people nap. A little rest during the heat of the day is a normal human thing to do

i still siesta almost every day, even on job sites... don't take my 15m early and late breaks and just take an hour at lunch. sleep in my car away from everyone else.

When I was on crews as a member or leader we’d do a wild thing called “hour lunch” haha. Just every once in a while but it felt amazing to nap outside with your buddies. Low stakes jobs were fun

I don't think I've ever had a time in my life I couldn't fall asleep.

I'm not even a generally 'sleepy' person, but give me something even remotely comfortable to lay/lean on and I can fall asleep in a minute or two.

Boredom! Especially for kids.

Was going to be my top answer, too. Been running a lot the past few years, and at a certain point the largest hurdle shifted from a physical/cardiovascular one to one of boredom! Hard to motivate yourself to get out for a 3+ hour run, but why? Because it's boring! Lately I've been leaning into it, though, and leaving my phone at home. Turns out being alone with my thoughts and a presence of mind is not scary nor terrible, but actually quite refreshing. My runs without my phone have been faster than those where I bring music or podcasts.

Boredom breeds creative minds

No joke, your brain needs you to just sit and space out sometimes, and if you don't schedule time for it, it will choose the least opportune moment to force it to happen.

You do not have to show up to every argument you are invited to.

I DISAGREE

Excuse me, but were you invited to this argument? ;-)

I sent the invitation snail mail

An argument with an idiot is an argument between idiots.

popcorn. Without all the artifical butter flavorings and low quality oils of course. Popcorn is a whole grain, and super high in fiber. As far as snacks go, it's about as good as it gets.

This is a good one. In addition to the fiber, if you get popcorn that isnt soaked in butter it’s also very high volume for the amount of calories. If you measure out something like smartpop popcorn compared with regular chips you can eat way more of the popcorn for the same calories

volume eating ftw!

Gotta fool that lizard brain

Popping it yourself on a stove rather than a microwave bag also makes a huge difference.

They make silicone reusable bags for the microwave that are much easier to use and have all the same benefits.

You can put it in a paper bag and it'll pop too.

I grew up on air popped popcorn and now we have one in our house. You can get decent ones for around $20 and we make it all the time.

Crying

Every morning at work, right?  That’s okay right?

Come on, now. At least wait until your lunch break when we all go sob in our cars in the parking lot.

Being around dirt. Especially for kids.

Exposure to a natural, somewhat dirty environment helps your immune system develop properly, which in turn helps reduce the chance of developing allergies or immune system diseases, and even reduces some mental health issues.

Citation: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220929-how-outdoor-play-boosts-kids-immune-systems

Absolutely. Let kids get messy, microbes are nature’s training ground for the immune system.

Agreed! People will let their kids touch everything in a store without a second thought but not let them touch a speck of dirt, even though you're way more likely to get sick from other humans. Humans evolved touching dirt. It's good for us.

Tell the same thing to my friends who freak out if I drink tap water, I tell them their immune systems won’t be able to keep up once Armageddon hits and there is no bottled water

An awful lot of bottled water is just tap water. "But it's bottled, it must be safer."

Water brands don't sell water, they sell plastic

I don't recall the details, but I remember seeing a study that most bottled water wasn't even as good as decent tap water, which I found absolutely hilarious.

Yes! They are regulated by different agencies- tap water is EPA, bottled is FDA. EPA standards for fecal contamination in water are stricter than FDA standards.

ETA: EPA standards are only applicable to municipal water systems & doesn’t apply to well water.

tosses plastic bottle into the ocean

Doing nothing. Just chilling and recharging.

I just started a new job. I had three months of garden leave. I haven’t done shit. Just working on my new house and hanging out with my dogs and some family. People kept telling me to travel, but after working a nightmare job for the last 5 years with incredible stress, this was the best thing ever for me. Just sitting on my patio smoking a cigar while listening to music has been amazing. Sleeping until whenever I want. Will do more staycations in the future

Stay-cations are the best. Traveling is so stressful.

what is garden leave?

"Garden leave is the practice whereby an employee leaving a job – having resigned or otherwise had their employment terminated – is instructed to stay away from work during the notice period, while still remaining on the payroll."

Google.

I didn't know either.

Obviously, this isn’t something that happens in the US They don’t do shit like garden leave here in the southeast

They do! It's not very common, but it's absolutely a thing.

It's largely for technicians, sales people, and other professionals as a sort of backhanded way to prevent them from going directly to the competition when there's no non-compete clause in their contract (or they have no contract).

For the record, this is roughly the same as in the UK. It's not particularly common there, either.

I'm off sick and apart from having to shovel in painkillers it's actually been like a holiday for similar reasons. Woke up late this morning and oh well who cares?

Really making me think about how the job is if my reaction to having a serious bad (edit back, tho it is bad) issue is this is nice.

I am jealous. My job is making me very ill. Trying to find a way out

I had a job at a non-profit where I worked WAY too many hours. My last summer I only took one day off in 3 months (working 7 days a week). I was there for three years and I finally burned out and quit by flipping out and screaming at my coworkers at a meeting.

My boss was cool though and because I had been so valuable to the company he paid me for another year as a consultant and told me I didn’t have to show up or anything. In three years I had been a big part in tripling the size of his organization. He told me “Go start that business you’ve been talking about for three years.” That’s what I did and it really paid off. He was the best boss I ever had.

Honestly, that’s a power move in today’s nonstop world.

I agree, absolutely.

One of the most damaging pieces of advice I was given as a child was "live every day as if it's your last", or "live every day to its fullest". It left me feeling like I could never have even a single day to just relax, chill out, and do nothing- because that would be wasting a day. Relaxing made me feel nervous and guilty.

Now I understand that having some time off to just do nothing is not only fine, but good and helpful to my life.

“Oh sorry boss, don’t mind me, just having a psychological crisis due to having to look at spreadsheets 40 hours a week and care about an abstract and arbitrary target with a brain that evolved to look for nuts in the fucking woods.”

This is similar to my argument against the whole concept of “lazy”.

We’re large mammals. Every other large mammal on this planet sleeps for most of the day. We’ve not evolved far enough to be part of a daily, never ending grind.

Editing to address the pedants - I should have said rest.

This is the best comment I’ve read all day

JOMO, joy of missing out.

I grew up in a family where we were constantly doing things and going places. Lots of travel as well as international moves. And not in a normal or fun way. In a way that was frenzied, compulsive and miserable. Not quite Glass Castle level but not that far off. Eventually as I got older I began to be able to say no to this type of stuff.

I remember one occasion as an older teenager where “we” were going to see the ball drop for NYE in New York. I insisted on staying back and for once, nobody tried to force me to go. I had a much better time staying in, having a nice quiet night with a book. That was the beginning of my JOMO lol. Now I am basically a hobbit and so much happier.

Highly underrated. Rest is productive too

I hate it when people get bothered by me not bothering people.

To balance the Doing you must find the Don’ting.

Edit: for a more poetic phrasing

Fatty foods can actually be good for your brain

Combination of outdated scientific paradigm and the makers of processed foods/refined sugar spent years turning fat into the be all end all scapegoat for health issues.

Yes eating to much fat will make you fat, but it won't clog your arteries. The best current theory of plaque is that it's what your body creates to reduce damage cause by systemic inflammation.

We have to be careful because the dose makes the poison. It's very easy to swing the other way into: fats are completely healthy and carbohydrates are the enemy and end up with a different set of problems.

"Yes eating to much fat will make you fat"--technically true, but not really how most people are getting fat. It's sugar, flour, and other refined carbohydrates.

Problem is when you tell people fatty foods can be good for you, most of them are thinking of processed junk, not salmon.

Yup, healthy fats like omega3s are brain fuel. It’s the junky trans fats that mess things up.

Love me some high quality fats.

Made me think of a New Orleans jazz musician, Quality Fats, with a penchant for marijuana.

I was about to add "black coffee is healthiest" for this same reason. Once I realized that adding some whole milk or cream to my coffee helped actually start my brain and sustain the energy from the caffeine, my morning became a lot easier.

It is really healthy to process some emotions and thoughts on your own.

I know I'm on reddit saying that so that's likely an unpopular opinion, but the people who have the most peace and clarity are people who can sort, experience, sit in, and evaluate their feelings without having to put it out to other people for other people to tell them what to think, feel, and do.

That's called introspection, and it is a skill that basically anyone can learn. Most choose not to because then they have to face themselves, and that's just the worst thing ever for too many. After all, there's a good chance that their worst critics will be proven correct, and that just cannot be allowed.

If I hear one more person talk about the sugar in fruit...

Ugh yes! Fruit juice entirely separate from the fiber can be bad if you drink too much. But especially the high water, high fiber fruits like berries? They’re so good for you. I once worked with a bypass surgeon and asked him what he thought about people being concerned about eating too much fruit. He said “I’ve never once had a patient come in for bypass say, ‘I know what did it—all those damn apples.’”

Well duh, an apple a day keeps the doctor away!

Especially if you throw it hard enough.

If my mom sees me eating grapes, I get a lecture on "sugar bombs."

The only reasonable response is “bombs away” as you plop another in your mouth

These people are thieves of joy, they can pry the kiwis from my cold dead hands

So tired of hearing this sentiment. Fruits and veggies are inherently healthy and only in extreme amounts could fruit be bad for you.

yes. of course eating 3000 calories worth of oranges is bad. so is eating 3000 calories of anything

Potatoes. It’s the oil and what we do to them that makes them high calorie and unhealthy

Yeah. If they're reasonably prepared, they have pretty much all of the basics to survive, no? I mean, not EVERYTHING, but a pretty broad spectrum of the baseline required nutrients and such.

I've read that potatoes and milk together have everything a human needs to have a healthy diet.

Not quite, neither potatoes or milk have essential fatty acids like omega 3s, which the body can only get from food

olive oil, potatotes and milk then ?

So what you're saying is that mashed potatoes are the food of the gods.

Who do you think the Shepherd was who made that first pie?

“I’m Commander Shepard and this is my favorite pie on the Citadel!”

Mark Watney survived on potatoes for a long time.

I mean, he was the best botanist on the planet.

He was also a pirate. He does what he wants.

*Space Pirate

Exactly potatoes are innocent. It’s us deep-frying and drowning them in cheese that’s the real crime.

Whoa whoa whoa. “Crime” is a strong word.

Agreed. It is virtually impossible to place "Cheese" and "Crime" in a coherent, logical sentence if the victim is not the Cheese.

Well, arrest me.

They actually have I think the highest satiety index out of all foods (make you the most full for the amount of calories).

A baked potato with Greek yogurt on it and some salt and pepper is actually an awesome, healthy side dish.

Who thinks potatoes are bad for you?? Maybe im just too german..

Doing nothing. Having a moment of silence.

Saying no to things

The Power of saying "No" is a big deal, underrated comment. I also like the phrase "No is a complete sentence"

Frozen vegetables. It’s seen as cheap and not as good as fresh, when in fact, it’s almost healthier than “fresh” vegetables.

Picked and frozen at prime freshness. Not picked under ripe and transported to your store

Laughing when shit goes down.

Yup. Humor is one of the mature defense mechanisms. We all deal with shit and humor genuinely helps us deal with it better. Same with teaming up with others, planning out positive and negative outcomes and what to do in those scenarios, or channeling your emotions into something productive or acceptable.

Having fat in your body, not an excessive amount though, but you don't need to be ripped with a completely flat stomach to be healthy.

Women especially need a degree of fat in order for the reproductive system to work.

Body fat is a crucial part of our endocrine system. It's needed for steroidogenesis, producing precursors to estrogen in women. In fact when the ovaries stop producing estrogen post-menopause, adipose tissue becomes the primary site of estrogen production.

Both sexes need a degree of fat to remain healthy, but women's reproductive systems are affected by lack of fat because their reproductive cycles rely on hormones that require body fat to be produced.

An open mind. Your brain will not fall out

The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. — Terry Pratchett

He believed, against all experience, that the world was fundamentally understandable, and that if he could only equip himself with the right mental toolbox he could take the back off and see how it worked. He was, of course, dead wrong.

GNU Sir Terry Pratchett

Salt. It’s been demonized by the “health” industry for years but it is WILDLY necessary for damn near everything in your body.

My girlfriends work out partner got in serious trouble because she put herself on an ultra low sodium diet for years. Like no salt at all if she could help it. And she worked out crazy hard every day. Turns out if you keep that up long enough it messes your body up pretty bad.

One of the things that Gatorade and other sports drinks replace is actually salt. It's also why drinking too much water is dangerous--your body does need a certain amount of salt.

For some people, a high sodium diet is actually needed!

glares dizzily in hypotension

As someone with chronic low blood pressure, salt is a necessity.

Low bp and POTS here. I literally have drs orders to eat more salt.

Especially the iodized kind.

Yep, consumption has actually dropped since they started iodizing salt in the 1920s. Very concerning as it’s important for brain development in fetuses, young children, and even a mild deficiency can affect future cognitive performance in school

And now everyone's buying fancy salt that isn't iodized.

I will say that iodine was added specifically to combat goitre, which is a symptom of low iodine. It’s a separate need from salt but was added to salt because it is so wildly available and everyone uses it.

Yes to it being a separate need, but saying it’s to “combat goitre” is an huge understatement, in my opinion. Iodine is essential for the function of the thyroid gland which helps to regulate damn near every essential process in your body right down to breathing, heart beating, and sleeping.

This. I started having some general health issues that sounded a lot like hypothyroidism, found the most likely cause to be iodine deficiency. Thought "but I salt everything", went to take stock, realized I had 5 different salts in the house, not one was iodized. Went to the store to buy iodized salt, realized that out of a wall of salt, only the cheap ass store brand was iodized. Literally 100+ types on the wall and ONE was iodized. Started getting the cheap stuff, earing a multivitamin gummy with iodine, and eating more nori (seaweed), symptoms cleared right up. Realized if I didn't eat so many eggs I'd have been in real trouble. I think this is a huge problem in America right now, all these fancy salts don't have iodine and a lot of people are becoming deficient.

Couple pro wrestlers I know swear by eating pickles after working out

Pickle juice is also amazing during a long distance bike ride. Most organized rides will have pickle juice shots at rest points along with water and bananas and other refueling snacks.

Being angry. It’s as valid an emotion as any and sometimes you just need to be angry and let it out. Reacting in anger is never a good thing, though.

Mr. Rogers had YoYoMa on and asked him if there was a piece he played when he was angry. He played part of one of the Shostokovich cello concertos. It was such a cool and natural way to talk about healthy anger to kids. Stuck with me.

We need more PSAs for men regarding this emotion. Anger is valid. What you do with it matters. Punching, screaming= not ideal. Yelling "I am so angry!" and walking away?= Very good and normal

Have sympathy for others, just because someone needs the help and extra leg up doesn’t mean you are being taken advantage of.

PO TA TOES

Boil 'em, Mash 'em, Stick 'em in a stew!

MSG.

MSG = Makes Shit Good!

Fuiyoh!

"I'm allergic to MSG. Hmm? Oh, yes, I eat mushrooms, tomatoes, and parmesan cheese, why do you ask?"

Almost every person who claims to be allergic to MSG is one of these people, but I do feel compelled to mention a kid I know who has galactosemia and would absolutely say this (minus the tomatoes, as his doctors are cautious about their galactose content)

He is technically not allergic to MSG, but a lot of MSG contains lactose and there's no way to know for sure.. so it's best to strictly avoid it altogether. Unfortunately it makes him sound a bit like one of THOSE people

(I'm not mentioning this as an argument against you, because you're like... 99.99% right; more as an awareness-raising/fun fact)

The MSG hate was actually a smear campaign against Asian food and Asians in general.

Was going to say this. it’s just a type of salt.

With 30% less sodium than actual salt!

And absolutely delicious

NUTS.

Calm down, GEN McAuliffe.

I mean sure they're great and healthy and full of nice things. but I can eat a handful and be done for the day. they're too good.

naps

Yelling at clouds

You lousy clouds! shakes fist

Pulls out Glock, "catch you some!"

Simmer down Abe

Rocking yourself and crying into the void

Also that ugly hyperventilate crying that you see in kids. Its actaully the quickest way for your nervous system to re-adjust.

You can mimmic it by doing a massive breath in, then topping it out as much as you can and exhaling. Repeat as needed.

crying regularly is actually super healthy. repressive coping by not crying, keeping difficult life stress and emotions inside, show negative consequences to immune, cardiovascular health, and hypertension. regularly experiencing and differentiating all emotions is healthy and a part of living a full life (no science to claim this part, i just love the notion that no emotion is “bad”)

I think the takeaway here is: everything in moderation. And that is just annoying to hear as an adult as it was in PE when they hammered it into my head

Boundaries. Nuance. Conflict in relationships.

Conflict is inevitable. It's how you deal with it that differentiates a healthy relationship with a toxic one.

bananas are healthy but lately people stopped buying them

I feel like bananas are the most efficient type of fruits,

It’s easy to carry around
It’s cheap
Peeling it is so easy
You don’t get any seeds while eating it
You don’t even need to wash it before eating
You also don’t get your hands dirty.

It comes in its own wrapper!

Have you ever considered how absolutely absurd it is that we’ve grown accustomed to going to the grocery store and having a pile of bananas available at all times? I’ve literally never seen a banana in its natural environment. The big banana marketers should all retire fat and happy, they did it.

I've been to a banana plantation. They had a lot of bananas

You should visit Ecuador. Not because you’ll see millions of bananas in their natural habit, but you will.

Coffee - full of antioxidants

Full-fat Greek-style yogurt. Better nutrition, it will leave you feeling replete, if you have it for breakfast, with a few berries, you won’t fancy a biscuit for elevenses.

Can only ever buy the full fat yoghurts, I had one last night a 500g pot. All the light versions are utter garbage, the full fat ones are thick and creamy and heaven to eat.

Even just switching from 0% to 2% has made such a big difference in my satiety.

To a certain degree, fat. There was a misunderstanding that if there's fat in your food and drink then it will go straight to your waist if you eat it. Not true. This gave birth to all these low fat foods where they took the fat out and replaced it with sugar. Which the body will just convert to fat. So they replaced the sugar with sugar substitute, which again just primes your body to absorb any real sugars you do eat, and turn them to fat.

Yeah, it's true there are good and bad fats. But your generally better off eating the food with fats, then any of the low fat alternatives.

Sleeping as much as you need

Alone time 🖤

A well-balanced burger. Fats, protein, carbs, some vitamins and fibre from salad bits. Especially at home so you can control the amount of oil etc.

The issue is more than people have the burger, and then 1,000kcal in fries, a 600kcal milkshake and some garlic sticks as well.

absolutely. Got over 20 years of not wanting to be one of "those people" that obsesses over calories and fucking looked things up... the unhealthy part of a teen burger combo is the "everything else".

having a little fat on your bones. please for the love of fuck. you need that to survive.

Eating lots of eggs.

I was helping my mom develop a post heart bypass diet a couple of years back and I was amazed at how dietary advice on eggs had changed.

As I recall, the USDA recommendation which had suggested very limited egg consumption was entirely dropped in lieu of a consumption cap on saturated fat (which technically would allow a dozen eggs per day 😂) Similarly the AHA had relaxed its recommendation to up to an egg per day while recognizing that that was a conservative reading of the most recent meta analysis of dietary cholesterol consumption studies (which IIRC showed no correlation between dietary and blood cholesterol for up to 1 egg per day, weak correlation for 1-2 eggs per day, and no correlation above 2 eggs per day)

So she enjoys consumption of eggs but alas doesn’t get bacon with them…

There was a med student a few years ago who did an experiment on himself where he ate I think a dozen eggs every day for a month and measured his cholesterol before and after. It went down lol. I love my delicious nutrient eggy breakfasts and usually eat 4 most days

It depends.

Broadly claiming something “healthy” lacks the nuance that things do not exist in a vacuum. The dose matters and the some things are beneficial in some contexts (age groups, disease/disease-free status, diets) and not others. Comparison group also matters. Like an oil might have positive properties but give off carcinogenic compounds if used at extremely high heats.

Idk. I’m overthinking it.

I don't think you're overthinking it - it's the right mindset to have towards basically everything. The top comment atm from u/the_original_Retro quotes "playing outside and touching dirt" for kids which *is spot on* (and backed up by science) - at the same time we're seeing people take this concept to the extreme by not vaxing their kids, making them drink raw milk and so on.

Nuance is everything - which is kinda ironic as a statement.

Telling the truth

Images and writings against Bezos were projected with a green laser on the bell tower in Piazza San Marco last night

activist plastered walls with message - ‘If you can rent Venice for your wedding, you can pay more tax.’

bezos’s mega-wedding is disrupting city life , it is blocking canals, commandeering yacht ports, and rallying elite security. residents fear their city is being sold to billionaires . while public services strain, Bezos can afford to shut down half of Venice , and still not pay his fair share

Venice is sinking, and we need global wealth tax reforms via the UN

Venice, when regular tourist comes to see the beauty of the city: ban on hotels, ban on wheeled suitcases, more fees and taxes (you come to the city and don't stay overnight? Here, you need to pay).

Venice, when Bezos and other oligarchs come: lockdown of the entire city just to cater a group of billionaires? Here you go.

exactly my thoughts. the inhabitants of Venice should throw their government pawns into the canals

Venetians are against the crowds so seems consistent. I would also charge more to less people.

Precisely. The city could have turned away his money. The fact is they haven’t. I don’t think the anger should be as much directed to someone bringing in a lot of money to the economy moreso the government or businesses that are accepting it

Yeah, that's how it looks like from the outside - all the efforts to "preserve Venice" are just a cash grab. Either this, or the classic concept of a state (in this case - city) being weak against strong and strong against weak.

someone bringing in a lot of money to the economy the mayor and his pals

there, fixed that for you

Why the fuck wouldn't he just buy everyone wine and food and give shit to the locals and have a huge party? Come on Jeffery you piece of shit you fucked up

Yeah wtf is this about ? I know it all comes down to money but tourists are told to stay away but then they allow this ?!

Then your argument should be against Venice and not Bezos. No oligarch or “powerful” person can do anything that is allowed. Had Venice government turned down his money that would only loose him as a traveler but they focused on the money and other oligarch “customers” this transaction would affect.

Who do you think runs the UN?

French revolution seems justified after all these years.

I think we need to go further than just another bourgeois revolution

We need a commune revival

The merchant class ( that Bezos is part of ) did the french revolution . The nobility was the target , and poor peasants were not part of the whole thing except as victims . The marchantile class won and it's the direct reason why Bezos is so influential today . So you are completely wrong .

You were blind both to history and present day reality if at any point in your life you thought that it was not justified.

Lucky for the French revolutionaries back in the day, there weren't weapons easily capable of dealing with an angry mob. Nowadays governments/military would have the easiest of times disabling any sort of revolution, given at the cost of a lot of lives and even more outrage, but still. At this day and age, we would never be able to revolt like the French did and kill/depose people in power. Not by a long shot.

For a peaceful revolution to happen, only 30% of emploees in all industries must strike by staying at home with friends and family for a few days.

No need to protest nor face the police/military.

That has occurred to me, but having that said - and not knowing where you're from and how's/what's people's mentality there concerning this - most people never adhere to strikes, even when they're called/organized by a Union. I've seen it throughout the years, in different companies from different industries, people are too afraid to "go against the grain".

The only way I can imagine that changing is if people are already going through hunger and/or facing some other sort of major adversity. While their bellies are full and they have some comforts/distractions, people are just unwilling to strike because they're afraid of reprisal.

True.

I live in a European country where all sorts of strikes, including general strikes, are a protected free speech right.

So, yeah, I guess things are very different in the US since the 1947 Taft Hartley Act (which stripped US unions of fundamental rights and freedoms, that Europeans take for granted, such as a protected right to organize sympathy, political and general strikes, as well as the freedom to create/join a union outside your company, without requiring a majority vote within your company nor informing your superior).

Or if the police don't shoot. The soldiers that defended the Berlin wall didn't shoot, and history is what we know.

residents fear their city is being sold to billionaires

welcome to earth.

I agree but the UN is not a global government. It was not founded with that intention

we need global wealth tax reforms via the UN

That's not happening...

Even the OECD's project for a global minimum tax rate for corporations is falling apart, among others due to the US pulling out.

Let Venice sink but take some oligarchs with it!

No, no, let them all be the 1st passengers on Musk's trip to Mars, next year! :)

Thank you Venice!!!!

Love it

Aye, fuck these rich pricks using Europe as their personal amusement park.

Shouldn’t they go after the city officials who allowed that to happen? Why is it possible for a rich dude to rent out a city?

If some rich dude throws enough money at your city to significantly ease your strained budget, it might also be rather unpopular to refuse said offer

So Venice needs money and decided this is a net positive for the city

Maybe, but if you are about to try and say it’s actually a good thing consider that the budgets for maintaining cities like Venice would be higher if the super rich paid their fair share

A one of event allowing a city to get back some of what they should have as standard doesn’t even slightly weaken the protesters message, arguably it proves them right

I guess the justification is every day people rent out the city via the tourist tax, I guess he was required to pay significantly more.

I still hate the fact that the rich can just throw money at whatever they want. I feel the same about VIP passes at theme parks!

I read somewhere that bezos pays a fine everyday for the height of his hedge since it exceeds what is permitted. They live in a different reality to everyone else

I'd actually be OK with it if they'd pay some real money and show respect.

Like "my future wife and I love Venice and we are grateful that the city welcomes us. To show our gratitude with more than mere words, we'd like to sponsor the restoration of / build a new for the city so that it can be cherished by future generations".

What has happened to filthy rich people not caring about their legacy anymore? An example: Jacob Fugger built social residences, IIRC the habitants should in turn include him in their prayers. Sneaky bastard, less time in purgatory, eh? Why not build e.g. hospitals in poor countries. Or bridges. Or whatever. Put a plaque at the front door. People in centuries might read it. "Huh, that guy was f'ing rich, eh?" Or "My kid lives because of your vanity, you bastard, I give that to you."

This is what I've always been wondering with these discussions. Somehow the local business owners are just helpless and without agency, and are forced to price regular people out.

I'm by no means a fan of oligharcs, fuck them, but to be fair: he didn't "rent the city". He rented a tiny island in the lagoon (San Giorgio island), it's about 0.1 square kilometers (~0.3 square miles)

What do you mean by "rent out the city"? I'm out of the loop.

In two weeks nobody will talk about this but the city will have a fuck-ton of money. It's an easy win for the city officials.

There's a point, or namely, a sum, at which you cant reasonably say no. I wouldn't say it's any one persons fault, but the system itself, which allowed a person to amass and control these vast amounts of wealth which is flawed.

Eat the rich

Nah, they are filthy!

Compost the rich?

I like the mindset, but they contain too many toxins like Botox and uncompostable silicone material. Proper dismantling and recycling is needed before the composting stage.

Dispose of the rich thoughtfully.

Burning is also too dangerous, bad for the atmosphere

Storing in graphite should be safe. Jabba might like keeping some of them as trophies.

Start with you PM. You already have a history for it

he doesn't care

Rich people DO tend to care when criticized by others/anyone.

Weird? Sure. But factual.

thats why he immediately canceled all plans and left the city.

False equivalence. Musk obviously cared a great deal that he was being criticized given his public outbursts over the matter and yet he continued doing what he was being criticized for.

Having over a certain amount of money breaks the system. I mean, did no one learn anything from playing Monopoly? We're at that point where only the winner is having fun. Even my youngest understands it's better to just not even play the game.

They don't care.

W

This is great! 👍🏻

I read that they're going to have a Great Gatsby themed party.

The 4th richest man in the world is having a 1920s Great Gatsby party.

They have absolutely no self awareness.

Bully these POS as much as possible. Let them know they are not welcome in society.

Fabulous

If you people hate Bezos so much, why do you keep giving him your money?! Don’t buy on Amazon, there is one solution… Most of you are just a bunch of hypocrites… (Sure, hate me for it)

The Amazon shopping site is not the main money maker for Amazon anymore, it is AWS. And you cant just stop using AWS, because more than half of the internet, including reddit btw, runs on AWS.

AWS is literally everywhere, but as someone who has used It, it's a shitty mess to work with

Using it every day - it's still the best cloud provider, the others hurt even more. Sure you can go back to managing your Linux servers on your own, but then you're not competitive.

Only solution is to properly tax these companies and individuals

But then you’re not competitive

lol. It depends. Sure if you need large scale or deal with bursty demand or you are a startup and don’t have the upfront cash. But so many small volume services are on cloud infrastructure for no good reason whatsoever.

And extremely expensive if someone fucks up the scaling config.

AWS is very easy to work with lmao

"You want to change laws to improve society somewhat. Yet you still participate in society. Curious your hypocrisy isn't it?"

Curious Indeed

This is what I was looking for. Thanks!

Love this comic

There was, and still is, no reason to buy at amazon, except for comfort. You can get almost anything somewhere else. Sometimes it costs more, sometimes it's cheaper. People who act like there is no way around buying there are just lazy fucks without principles. AWS is a different story.

How is AWS a different story? The amount of Cloud Providers have been ever increasing for the last years, with more alternatives for EU customers who cares about privacy.

Show me your perspective.

There are many people unfamiliar with the deeper mechanics of the internet or information technology in general.  The knowledge about AWS even existing, and what services they provide is not as common. My point is, it is difficult to avoid services you don't even know you're using.  Whereas (not) buying on amazon.com is pretty easy to understand.

Buying on amazon isnt "participating in society".

Are you aware of the existence of AWS? This is the same nonsense as opposing Google. You can't at this point. Sure you can buy your books and electronics somewhere else, but that shop is probably either a customer of Amazon, going out of business or both.

AWS is. basically 1/3 of the internet and so far ahead of all other players.

The only solution is proper taxation

I hate to tell you, but a huge percentage of websites, apps and systems are hosted in AWS. That's the main cash cow for the company by mile

this - you can still buy on line, have music/movies streaming without an Amazon account, deleted mine a few years ago, best decision ever.

I hate to tell you, but pretty much everything is owned by an oligarch at this point. Billions is an insane amount of money. Try counting to a billion a thousand at a time and you will see how much money that is. Like, a millionaire is basically nothing to billionaire, 0.1%, not even enough to be considered a rounding error.

The people who built the computer you typed this on struggle to feed their family because the fruit of their labor went to tech oligarchs.

look at all the excuses they make. pretending virtues online is easy, backing them in reality is hard. if your outrage only ever floats online: stop being an act, it's why the world goes to shit.

The thing is internet is ruining on AWS servers like a huge part of it, even if you stop buying from amazon.com or use their prime video, you unknowingly give them money just buy using the www.

If you people hate Bezos so much, why do you keep giving him your money?! Don’t buy on Amazon

Stopped buying from Amazon in February. Actually shockingly easy. I thought I would have a rough time and it would be really inconvenient. Turns out it's a 2min google search instead of a 1min amazon search. I almost always find them for the same price, too. Sometimes even less expensive. Everyone should give it a try.

But sadly it's just a drop in the bucket. That's hardly where he makes his money from anymore.

Now boycott AWS

I personally don't buy anything off amazon, but I don't begrudge anyone who does. There are hundreds of god awful aspects of modern life and it shouldn't be down to every individual to research and memorise every single bad actor.

Who could possibly know every single company who exploits child labour to sew their clothes of make their electronics, every company who partners with oppresive regimes to use slave labour, every company who lobbies governments to continue making their product which they know is killing hundreds of thousands of people the globe over, every company who is dodging sanctions to prop up their bottom line?

The duty should be on our governments to regulate and punish those bad actors, but unfortunately those two groups have become one and the same. I don't know what the solution is, but I know it isn't to post snarky comments shaming people for participating in the broken society they were born into.

Yeah. Amazon gives him pennies compared to what he makes off of companies that use AWS. That list of companies is pretty damn extensive.

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Please, excuse my ignorance. I’ll just cancel my AWS subscription.

Witchever way you look at it, sounds cool. They’ve got loadsa money and their kids are boring and predictable.

Laser from amazon?

Curious! I am very intelligent.

No offense, but Venice has no skin in this fight. Even if Bezos is doing some shady stuff (which I think he does) he doesn’t do it in Venice.

Venice is just benefactor, cuz imagine how much money poured in. That could be easily +5% in gdp this year.

(I think overtourism and under-taxed billionaires are both very legitimate issues that need to be corrected, but I couldn't help notice the irony...)

How dare a man like Bezos flaunt his wealth in a city that was built and made legendary by merchants who became so insanely rich from monopolizing trade that they spent obscene amounts of their money trying to build a more extravagant canal palace than the other rich merchants!

(In other words, the fact that Bezos is having a wedding of conspicuous consumption in Venice is actually precisely what the people who built Venice used to do all the time. The Venetian cliché of rich masked aristocrats in ballrooms didn't come out of nowhere. The beautiful Venice we love to look at only exists because it was funded by the gigantic profits skillfully generated by the Venetians who made themselves the middlemen of a global economy (sound familiar???). As much as I dislike Bezos and Amazon, his wedding is not a sign of Venice being pulled away from its traditional history simply because of Venice's specific history of being built by the Jeff Bezoses of their golden age...but what will definitely threaten "real Venice" is if the growth of mass tourism is not limited. There are enough middle class/affluent people on Earth to keep tourist numbers growing, but historical cities have a finite capacity...they cannot support a rising growth curve of visitors.)

Don't we want rich people to stop hoarding their money and spend it instead? Obviously there would be better alternatives, but keep in mind, in a world where a rich person can't keep his money, why on earth do you think you would be able to?

That's jobs, that's fueling the economy.

My guy you are a working class citizen not a temporary poor millionaire

Your ego is so attached to your ideology you have completely limited your brain function.

So you are a millionaire, or… ?

it will trickle down to you any day now :D

Trickle down economics was about reducing taxes on the rich in the hopes they do stuff like this.

So you are ironically agreeing with me.

Absolutely, it's inevitable for you to get all the trickles :D

You've seen Tickle Me Elmo.

Introducing, Trickle Me Bezo.

You're a bootlicker.

I like when people buy things, makes numbers go up.

People on reddit just get mad when people buy things, cause their numbers always go down.

You don't have problems with tourism, you have problems with oligarchs

They can have both.

Like I get it but writing "fuck oligarchy" in Venice is pretty funny. What does the city stand for if not oligarchy

Anyone cares about this loud suffering? I can hardly think of a city that has been so gutted from its original population and prostitutionized to turism than venice. Nothing would have changed if he had his wedding there. The catastrope has already happened

It's already too late. Someone else will do it. Nothing will change. You're overreacting.

Doing nothing will change nothing.

the people are rising.

And then vote conservative/ far right parties at the next election who will gladly give more tax cuts to the rich and destroy public services and welfare. Im happy that there is some disruption at jeff bezos' wedding but italians had some weeks ago a referendum about working rights and they literally did not show up to vote. A lot of rage going around but not so much understanding of what is causing this rage. It's frustating.

People downvoting truths they don't want to hear.

sadly people rising only for a short while till they give up

Can everyone stop with the self defeating rhetoric?

Like, they got you guys down bad.

These are instructions for his young wife?

This made me laugh out loud. BTW, does Bezos's wife change her last name?

She changed her bra size if that counts.

Waste of time but fair play

My guy you are a working class citizen not a temporary poor millionaire

Doesn't deviate from the fact this achieves nothing

They don’t give two shits about your display.

Bravo! 👏

... with a laser pen purchased from Amazon.

I don't get it. Do activists in Italy think Bezos is italian or something? Or do they not understand the notion of different nations ?

You sure seem to not get it :D

are you aware why they are doing this in Venice?

Billionaires make it worse for everyone worldwide.

Amazon brings a shit lot of money in America . Bezos is american . Their problems within America is theirs to solve , you aren't involved . Leftists in Europe often think they are americans , you are not .

Just stop. Amazon is a global problem. They're exploiters and polluters. You don't get that?

WORLDwide.

yeah... you are making a lot of wild assumptions and you don't seem to actually understand the people protesting issues.

Bezos does business all over the world, with impact on people and the environment everywhere. Also, this post is about him renting out a European city.

I got a fucking ad under this post of „the Peter Theil story“… ETR 🥘

they're starting to advertise this freak now that Musk is getting all the hate?

I read about a string of pubs in a popular tourist area of another European city being completely booked out by a corporation for a staff event. Every pub in the area was private for the day. When did cities become bookable?

When did cities become bookable?

Ever since the residents of the city began selling and renting them.

How do they project that so well?

Now do it in moscow

He'll probably take that as a compliment

Technocracy

Project this onto the fuckin wedding aisle.

'rock oligarchs'

Exactly my thoughts 🤔

Why would he get married in a place full of Luigi's?

Is that message supposed to be instructional for Mrs Bezos' wedding night?

Jeff could point out the window and say "Look, it's the will of the common people, you have to fuck me"

I bet that the green laser was bought on amazon, with prime delivery

The messaging here is terrible just like AOC and Bernie’s messaging. Stop using words 75% of the world doesn’t even understand.  Ask a stranger in the street if they know wtf an oligarch is.

Hey /u/BkkGrl,

This is now the top post on reddit. It will be recorded at /r/topofreddit with all the other top posts.

I've never been to Venice, but I think I'm falling in love with the Venetians!

Kind of disrespectful towards Catholics, no? That’s a church.

Fucking love it.

BOYCOTT AMAZON

PEOPLE UP

PLANET UP

I know this makes people feel better but billionaires don’t care or even acknowledge you

So true.

*Fakoli bajaar church

*projector purchased from amazon

Dude. Bezos isn’t gonna suck your dick

Billionaires have it better than royalty since they have no responsibilities to their countries or its people. They hardly even pay taxes. I don’t want king on paper, or in practice. He can do whatever he wants

*corporatocracy. Been happening since the Gilded age. Needs to stop.

Get rid of the people in charge who have allowed this

Ah yes, projected giant red X’s and snarky posters—because nothing says ‘we’re serious’ like guerrilla art against the world’s richest man who’s busy turning Venice into his personal waterpark

As they go home and order off Amazon. The irony writes itself.

I assume the green lasers were purchased from Amazon.

Love it.

At first I thought the image was the West Side Market in r/Cleveland

This is weird. Since when had Bezos ever been considered an oligarch? Misplaced anger with this one.

Luigi taught us that powerful only respond to one kind of public action.

Why don't you just quit buying his products?

Does the green laser also write letters in Italian?

ok ok but how many of you bought something from amazon this year?

good oligrach is an unalived oligarch

Damn they don't like Oli.

oligarchy ? isnt that the wrong term ? would he be more of a technogarch ?

If ever a time for a vertical photograph is now

What about the gators?

Si. Si fottano gli oligarchi bastardi :-)

Oligarchs fuck, rather

Americans take note. THIS is what we gotta be doing. Write it on the walls.

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which actions? :D

That will show them!

Non of these protests are being done by italian people.

its probably japanese or bolivian people. Maybe from Tunisia. you're onto something you genius

source?

As it should

I don't support bezos at all, but couldn't this be an opportunity for the city to exploit his wealth and get some money?

not worth if it's unbearably annoying to residents though.

I would almost agree if there was a city vote on the subject. If the general population agree with charging him a ton of money to help infrastructure. Which is basically like the one sign said that he should pay taxes/contribute more

The precedent needs to be made abundantly clear that billionaires must not be allowed to use our cities as playgrounds. Drastic action must be taken. There are 3000 billionaires in the world and 8 billion people, remind them.

You first

The sad part is that they don't care at all.

Since when Bezos is considered an oligarch? Yes, he’s wealthy but it wasn’t acquired by political influence as real oligarchs do.

Sure, but now he does own a newspaper and Prime is basically a TV network. Typically that might suggest you intend to wield some political clout.

Très élégant.

Down with the billionaires!

Its a bit pathetic really.

Whats that, some frikken lasers on a wall? In the time it took the light to reach his eyes, he probably made more money that you will in your entire life.

A frikken laser show isn't going to intimidate the likes of Bezos. . . . . A guillotine, however...

A Fuck Democrats who can’t support Israel and our Military

People born before 2000, what trivial skill you possess that others don't use anymore?

I know how to replace the ink ribbon on a typewriter.

Remember when we had to have a typing speed of atleast 60wpm to be considered for an office job, lol

I had to pass a typing test for a call center job in 2020, lol. 60 wpm, 98% accuracy or higher

I credit AIM for my typing skills. I'm a millennial and type at 120+ wpm consistently.

I managed a call center in the past, nowadays it seems like the typical speed needed is only 30 wpm which is so incredibly painfully slow that I'm always shocked when people barely hit it.

I had a guy show up for an interview once, I left him in the interview room with the computer set up for his typing test and computer literacy test (had to make sure people knew what a browser was, how to use the internet, save documents, etc). Candidates could take as many cracks at the test as they wanted. After a full hour I was like okay man it's time to go, I pop in the room and he's like oh great! I'm almost done warming up, I'll be ready to take the test in a minute. I tell him hey man, it's been an hour, whatever you have is what you have. I check the computer and for the past hour all this guy has done is the typing test. His fastest speed was 23 wpm. He didn't even get around to the computer literacy portion.

This is wild to me. Nobody has basic typing skills anymore. Not to mention basic computer literacy. The amount of questions I've been asked about the most basic of things is bewilering. I once had someone legitimately ask why there was a capital A light on their keyboard because they didn't know what caps lock was.

Millennials are basically in a techno literate bubble.

We, generally, know more than Gen X and older. While we also know more than Gen Z and after.

Edit: I'm sorry Gen X'ers! I'd argue MOST of you are probably that weird hybrid Generation though. Every Gen X person I know in the 45+ age range can barely hook up a wi-fi router. My boss is Gen X (younger) though and runs circles around me.

There’s a Goldilocks zone for using a computer and even knowing just basic shit and I feel extremely fortunate to fall in it. I wouldn’t even consider myself computer savvy at all for my generation (92) but compared to some of the older and younger folks in the workforce the fact I can use windows competently and do basic functions on a spreadsheet is top tier these days apparently

Younger Gen X too. (Sometimes called the Oregon Trail generation) Anyone who successfully got a sound card working in DOS has at least basic computer skills.

My first computer was in 3rd grade, bought from sears by my parents. I’m not joking, sears. They sold computers in the late 1980’s, just like an appliance.

It was windows 3.1, which meant literally all applications needed to be run from DOS. Again, I was in third grade. Do you know what it’s like to teach a 3rd grader DOS commands and syntax?

Let me tell you who my teacher in all this was, when I was in third grade: the customer support hotline for Sears. I literally learned DOS over a landline phone from a customer service agent. Whatever that person made per hour was not enough, what a saint to be so calm and polite with a kid that didn’t understand why I couldn’t just load up Oregon Trail like I did Castlevania on my NES

Yes! I have the speed! And I can look at you while I’m typing!

I was typing something recently and turned my head to talk and type at the same time, my daughter was blown away that I could do that!

My work thinks I'm a witch and leave offerings for me (Jolly ranchers) bc I'm able to do this. It's that and I'm also able to catch when I make a mistake and backspace and rewrite without looking. I actually make more mistakes when I look!

It's so bizarre that it's magic to people, when I grew up and that was normal

Back in the early 2000s a coworker tried to prank me and sprayed my keyboard white so I could not see the letters. He popped in saying I need to do this " work" quick. Grabbed it, logged in and started banging it out while smiling looking only at the document.

Thank you IRC, you did what no teacher would have been able to

Asl : 42 m earth

Do they... do they not need that anymore?!?

Most places only require 30 wpm from what I've seen which is crazy considering it is 2025 and people should be able to type faster than even 60 wpm with 98% accuracy

Younger people are using traditional computers (and their keyboards) less often than millennials did. Overall computer literacy is declining.

They don't teach typing in school anymore either. It was required at my school. I keep meaning to have my kids do an online typing class but not getting around to it.

Memorize phone numbers

My mom used to take the phone off the hook in her bedroom and deadbolt the door so we couldn't use the phone. I actually had phone numbers of the payphones I could get to on my bike memorized. (That was a very old-fashioned sentence I just said.) I would give those out as my phone number and when someone said they were going to call me, I would just ride my bike up to that phone and wait for the call. I don't know if anyone ever found out that it wasn't my home number.

My favorite one was McDonald's. The phone was in a vestibule at the back entrance that was rarely used, so I had a lot of privacy. It was also indoors, so even though there were a couple payphones closer to my house, I could get out of the rain or cold using the McDonald's one.

There's still a handful of payphones that still work. Any time I find one, I try to call the number on it from my cellphone. Every now and then I find one where the payphone itself rings when called. When that happens, I save the number in my phone and call it when I'm bored, knowing full well that if anybody picks up, it'll be some random person who is hearing a payphone ring likely for the first time in their life and is curious to answer it.

There's various things that could be done here, but my favorite is to fuck with them, like saying "The package is in the location we discussed, do not be late!"

Dude, hell yeah. Thanks for making the world a little cooler; keep it up 👍

"Wake up, they miss you." to mind fuck them.

My friend changed his phone number. He's had it for more than 20 years. It was one of the four (working) phone numbers I can still recall from memory. Now I'm down to 3. Gotta hope somebody answers if I need bail money and I don't have my phone!

I know the secret to recording over VHS tapes that weren’t meant for it.

The real forgotten skill was to pause recording a tv show when it went to break and then start it back up when coming back from commercial without clipping part of the show itself.

I was obsessed with getting this perfect. Somewhere in my childhood garage are boxes and boxes of my bootleg Simpsons tapes.

Same, except it's the first couple of seasons of South Park

That little piece of tape didn’t stand a chance

Sellotape? Worked for cassettes and floppy disks too.

yup

Any why would you do that other than to splice the squeel like a pig scene from deliverance onto a random part of my little sisters VHS copy of the little mermaid?

Sebastian has a point about life on dry land being overrated

My penmanship is trash, but my ability to read cursive handwriting appears to be a superpower to my younger coworkers.

I recently did a lot of genealogy research for my family and I loved deciphering these beautiful, if somewhat unintelligible, documents from 100+ years ago. I have horrendous penmanship and it makes me very jealous, but it's like playing detective which is awesome.

Hey, did you know you can volunteer to help transcribe historic documents? I know the National Archives and The Smithsonian have programs, and probably other museums do as well. You can do as much or as little as you want, and the National Archive let's you choose the types of documents that interest you. Not sure about The Smithsonian. I've been thinking about signing up myself.

do you know if this is still true? I don't really trust anything I took for granted as verifiable more than five or six months ago, and the librarian of Congress is already gone because this clown show wants to rewrite history

I wonder how the National Archive is holding up, because that sounds like a lot of fun

Part of my work duties involved scanning, digitizing, and archiving homicide files from 1919 to 1994, and the handwriting is exquisite. It's artwork.

And I'm over here, scratching out scrawl like I've never met a pen before.

This is the one that blows my mind. I have a co-worker that regularly ask me to read notes of an older co-worker and he has beautiful almost perfect copper print cursive.

He can read my half-print half chicken scratch though.

Should you be so inclined, you can volunteer your skills to a variety of historic archives that are working to digitize and transcribe their old documents! This will make them searchable to researchers and the public. The Smithsonian Transcription Center is one, but googling some variation of “historic transcription projects” will show others

Wait, are we at a point where the ability to read cursive is consider translation?!

Adding this puppy to my resume!!

Someone recently came in with a cursive handwritten resume and our receptionist couldn't read it. I'm not even that old. I read it just fine, the person had great penmanship. It made me feel old and I'm not even 40 lol!

When I write fast I still do half print and half cursive.

They should be hired purely for their audacity

I can unwind spiral telephone cords when they get a kink!

Slinkies too

Do they like to be tied up?

Yeah they do, the little sluts.

I can text like crazy fast on a t9 keypad lol

No lie - this paid off recently: I moved and my printer has a t9 type keypad which you have to use to input the WiFi password (which is long as heck). My niece and nephew (born late 2000s) could NOT make it work. I was like step aside and let me show you the sacred texts.

I was like step aside and let me show you the sacred texts.

Watch this elder scroll

The flex was being able to text your friends under the desk at school without looking at the screen. Then peeking to see a response.

While keeping under 140 characters to not have to pay for 2 texts!

Gods, I remember telling a girl I liked her on text back then. This was like a Friday night and she text back she liked me too and I ran out of money. She lived a few villages away so I wouldn't see her until the following Monday at school; I ran up to the corner shop first thing the next day to top up my phone again.

5 quid gave me 50 texts! It was a different time back then.

The insane limitations of early cellular networks! I never texted because 10 cents per seemed insane when I could call and say the same thing in 15 seconds.

BUT...

I once pocket dialed my voicemail for an HOUR, which counted against my 180 minutes of calling that month.

I used the internet on my phone and my mom ended up getting a 400 dollar cell phone bill lol

The panic when you hit the wrong button and the internet loading icons started popping up

Then wondering how your teacher knew what you were up to.

To quote my favorite teacher: "nobody looks at their crotch randomly and giggles"

To quote my favorite teacher: "nobody looks at their crotch randomly and giggles"

My kids do

Wife was teaching HS in that era and had grudging respect for the girls who seemed to be giving the teachers their full attention while texting 30 wpm under their desk.

I freaked my ex girlfriend out hard once because I was typing a reply on reddit when she came over to talk to me. I just kept typing as she was talking to me and it freaked her out.

So then I started replying to her by typing out my responses instead of saying them while staring her dead in the eyes, she just about had a stroke.

I'd have full conversations across the school without even having to look at my fingers texting, now I can't spell anything on my iPhone without the touchscreen messing something up...

Being able to type accurately and fast on a T9 without looking was the ultimate skill back in the day.

Was literally put on resumes

Remember no look texting with one hand, because your phone had buttons and T9 was better at predictive text that smartphone keyboards?

t9 was ridiculously good at predictive text. todays autocorrect is trash compared to it.

That's the algorithm Stephen Hawking's pad used for his text to voice. Used eye tracking for alphanumeric input then the t9 bar above the keyboard and finally the sentence that he was building on top.

I very very nearly was able to join the team that worked on his technology at a former employer... but didn't make the cut. It was a super prestigious team to be on, and you had other jobs to do too, but damn... I wish I had the ability to say I worked on his tech stack.

If I could still have a physical keypad, I would. The blackberry was my favorite phone in terms of functionality. I’m buzzing around NYC for work and either T9 or the blackberry keyboard would make my life so much easier when I’m on the move. The touchscreen just needs too much focus, but I guess I could talk to text? Maybe I’m just stupid

I prefer the physical keypad because I made fewer errors due to the raised buttons. Smartphone keypads drive me nuts, because I can’t be okay letting mistakes stand so I’m constantly fixing shit.

Physical keyboards are superior but I think I've gotten used to the touch screen. However, now "smart" phones have started autocorrected words that are spelled correctly. Because for some reason it thinks you actually meant to type a completely different word. So you have to watch for it just randomly changing up words on you so you can go back and manually correct thoses.

That’s a rare superpower now, respect

I used to be a projectionist at a movie theatre. Most theaters are all digital now.

OP said trivial, you sir.... Are a god among ants

We were certainly the cool kids at the theater.

I remember when I discovered the "cigarette burns" in the corner of the movie that would show up every 10 minutes or so signaling a reel change. Cool stuff.

Me too! Still to this day is probably my favorite job I've ever had. I used to put the trailers together on the reels. We (employees) had viewing parties when we screened the movies the night before a release to make sure it was all spliced together correctly and take out frames with those holes or ridges in the film. It was a lot of fun, most of us that worked there were friends. Everyone would cheer and holler when the projectionist "on duty" had to run up to the booth to fix something. I saved a strip of film from Matrix and a couple other movies.

Rewind a cassette tape

With a Bic pen

Or a pencil.

Installing software via 10+ floppy disks. Anyone else install Windows 95 from a stack of floppies?

Using pkzip to archive across multiple floppies... and then the feeling when you get to your friend's house and disk 12 of 15 is unreadable.

How to use a map AND fold it back up the right way

The folding is where they get you!

Last time I had to use a map I had taken a wrong turn at the freeway interchange. I stopped at a gas station, figured out where I was and plotted a course towards home.

Was it the fastest way home? Absolutely not. Did I get home? Yup. Was my friend super confused when she woke up and we were in the Bay area instead of Stockton? Also yes.

Keeping a Tamagotchi alive for more than 3 days.

See, now we know you're lying

Excuse me, I was elite in pixel pet care.

I can both write a check and I can address an envelope to mail it to you.

Please do

Also, letter formatting. When I was in school, personal letters and business letters were still a thing and there was a correct format for what information went where, spacing, indents, etc.

Reading a map

My mom was into antiques so garage sales were an every weekend thing. She’d get the classified out and circle all the ones she wanted to hit then put them in order by which she wanted to hit first. I was the map reader in the car as she drove.

Oh my god you have the exact same childhood experience as I do

My family often drove from PA to NV and back in the 80s when I was under 10 and I was given the TripTiks (AAA custom maps) and other maps and given the "job" to follow the map. Sometimes I actually was needed to remind Dad to take an exit or find him a way back from a restaurant onto the Interstate, lol.

I guess I was the GPS. I very rarely need GPS or Google Maps to drive in about a 50 mile radius of my house, even on roads I've never been on. And I've never been a taxi/uber driver or delivery driver, and have only done doordash a handful of times.

Remarkable how useful this skill is for camping as well as traveling abroad. Maps aren’t just for ling distance, but for subways, buses, trains, etc. Although I’m sure the vast majority don’t consider transport as maps.

We frequently turn to maps when traveling the US by car. Nav is not all knowing.

Related, but I can read a road atlas and navigate a city with just that.

Certainly a rare skill, even back when it was the only option. Why are there no street signs? Is that the road you're looking for or just some dirt road, according to the map it's some kind of smaller road so it might be... From what I remember map navigation did endanger quite a few marriages.

I let the map blow out the window once and my then husband, the driver, said “It doesn’t matter. You couldn’t read it anyway “

I used to operate a keypunch card machine ... back in caveman days of the early 1970s.

My high school computer teacher thought it was important for us to read punch cards. I can still calculate the ASCII code, and I remember that "A" is 65.

Yeah, not really useful anymore.

Also, "a" is 97.  As a software engineer, this knowledge is occasionally useful

There's a reason for that.

'A': 01000001
'a': 01100001

Terminals in ye olden times could simply hook the shift key up to change that bit.

I can beat Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! Like, a quarter of the time.

I can beat "The Lion King" for Sega Genesis.

This is honestly incredibly impressive.

Pics or gtfo

The ability to be alone with my thoughts for a few moments without losing my damn mind.

I mastered this when I was about 28. I was driving long haul at the time and walked out to my truck at after going inside a truck stop to eat and shower to find it was broken into. Radio, tv, and CB all gone. I would have spent a day getting new ones installed except it was a time sensitive load. Spent the next 6 days with nothing except books after I stopped for the night. After that I found I would just leave the stuff turned off half the day driving and not even notice. Been married 22 years and my wife still comments that its weird that I can just sit in a room alone with nothing going on and be fine, or on long drives just look out the window happily. And all the kids think its creepy, lol.

It’s crazy to me. If i have a wait in a restaurant or something I will just..wait. And it really stresses other people out! The reactions are so hilarious!

Not only that. You can probably relate: i can wait and completely enjoy the wait. lol

Reminds me of a favorite quote of mine.

Patience is not the ability to wait but the ability to keep a good attitude while waiting.

Pascal said 'All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.'

I take a small chunk of pride being in a public space and one of the, if not the only one not on my phone.

People watching is one of my favorite things to do.

Weirder still, being able to spend time with people without taking my phone out of my pocket, while most other millennials, gen x, and even boomers can't seem to socialize without burying their face in their phone mid conversation....

I hate cell phones

spaces out

becomes Gandalf the white

Burning a CD.

I used to dial my friend's phone number by tapping the hang up buttons which simulated a rotary dial phone.

That’s a fun game. Unfortunately my friend’s number began with 9-2. We learned the hard way it’s very easy to actually dial 911

I learned about this while watching "Hackers"

Hack the planet!

Nice. “Pulse dialing” and most people had no idea that’s how rotary dials actually worked.

Memorising phone numbers

Might be aging myself here but dialing a rotary phone

I know lots of people will comment that they can write in cursive. This is painful but I can also write in shorthand. Well, to be more honest, I used to be able to write perfectly in shorthand but it still shows up in my regular writing sometimes.

Was coming on here to say shorthand! It was awesome

From the same set of skills: blind typing with 10 fingers. Some let's teach our future secretaries have their uses when you turn out to be a web dev too. But we did not learn short hand. I think I am younger than you.

My mom can do that! We thought it was so cool as a kid. She says they used to teach it in school

They did but it was almost exclusively for females. It was with the ideology that at some point in time we would be standing in front of a desk taking dictation. Good Lord, what a miserable vision for a young woman's future. I will admit it is nice for jotting down a quick note.

My schoolteachers in the 1970's were sadists and hated kids. They must have been told during this era - "You want to be a veterinarian? Pish tosh! - you can be a teacher, nurse, or secretary and that's it!" It was bleak, indeed.

damn! my grandfather taught me that! He was a stenographer for a British company in India pre-independence and he wanted me to learn it, and stupid me thought I would not! RIP grandpa....

Edit: There is a cool story behind my grandfather using shorthand. During one of the independence gatherings in my city, one of the prominent leaders was delivering an address and my grandfather was in the front row, taking notes in shorthand. The leader asked him what he was writing and my grandad replied that it was shorthand and it had the minutes of the meeting. The leader then asked him to come forward and read it out loud to the audience. He said that it was pretty cool and he actually got to meet the first prime minister of India (the leader delivering the address)

I tried to learn it on my own for my work using some books. I could not. It gets complicated really fast!

I can honestly say things like:

“I managed a video store,”

“I learned basic coding from making my MySpace page cool,”

And the ever popular

“I learned how to play the trumpet, French horn, and trombone in order to play in a ska band.”

I worked in a video store too, and I leaned html from customizing my LiveJournal. Now I’m a website manager — never took coding lessons/classes!

The Dewey Decimal System, motherfuckers.

“Don’t you know the Dewey Decimal System!!!!!!!”

Conan! The Librarian!

“I’m sorry, this is a little late” teehee

Found the angry librarian lol

They still have libraries y’know….

They do, but you don't need to know the Dewey decimal system to use one. It was pretty necessary back when they tracked everything with a card catalogue instead of a searchable computer system.

MySpace background layouts

I know who Tom is and why he’s my friend

I can write out “boobs” on a calculator.

Using a paperclip to fix bent pins on a CPU or IDE drive

Or open a CD-ROM drive with it.

The "double space after a period" muscle memory.

I remember in sixth grade my teacher told me she wanted a paper typed and double spaced. I didn’t know what that meant and my dad told me to put two spaces behind each period. This was not what the teacher meant.

For those confused, "double spaced" normally means leaving an entire line of empty space (vertically) between each line on the page. It's commonly used in education as it makes it easier to add handwritten notes and corrections.

I still do double spaces because of all the times I got in trouble in elementary school for not double spacing. Every teacher in my school back then had the policy that there always has to be 2 spaces after every period. The reason for this was that a single space apparently wasn't clearly visible enough on an Apple II screen.

It was probably a little over 5 years ago that I realized that wasn't the standard way of typing anymore. Once I was conscious of it, it was surprisingly easy to change my habit to a single space.

If you're typing on a phone nowadays, double tapping the space bar will automatically put a period at the end of your sentence, with one space after the period to begin typing. Super convenient.

Cleaning out Super Nintendo cartridges

The problem was corrosion. Blowing on them worked temporarily because the humidity on your breath increased their conductivity. but the humidity also increased the rate of corrosion

A better way is to use a soft toothbrush to brush them, it wears down the corrosion but not with humidity so tends to last longer.

ah i wanna read the answers hahah all of them

I know how to program a VCR.

A VCR is the machine we put tapes into to watch movies or record TV. It's what we used to use to watch movies & TV shows we recorded on before dvd's. Dvd's are what we used to watched movies on before Blu-ray. Blu-ray is what we used to watch movies on before streaming.

Laserdics were in there somewhere too. Fuck, I'm old

How to operate a blackberry

You just check if it’s ripe or has anything growing on it, give it a rinse and then enjoy right?

Or, if you're really lazy, just wipe the growing stuff and eat it.

Oooo that sweet roller ball action.

Im pretty good at navigating DOS commands

Long division

I can speed dial a rotary phone.
I can no look one handed type on a blackberry phone ( can't do it on my iPhone with Clicks due to the poor balance)
I still know Palm Pilot short hand.

Right way of typing, using all fingers to type.
Driving manual cars

I can use "Save As"

Print. Print Preview.

Run. Run as administrator.

How to use an actual printed dictionary

And the phone book. And the Yellow pages!

The yellow page is just out there doxing everybody

Not so much. The yellow pages is the commercial part of the phone book where business pay to exist. The White Pages section of the phone book was where people’s numbers and even addresses were listed. However the phone books of today don’t really seem to have white pages

HTML

Not just HTML, but I remember how to use tables to lay out a site instead of css.

as a web developer who started writing code in the late 90s, ah yes, the bad old days. which STILL EXIST in html emails!

How to use the Card library

I'm just offended that being born before 2000 is apparently unusual now.

I can weigh weed on a non digital scale.

I can fix a cassette tape with a pencil

I’m quite happy to spend unlimited time away from phones and the internet.

Counting change correctly. That's $3.64, out of $20? 36 cents makes four... (grab $1) five, (grab $5) ten, and (grab $10) ten makes twenty.

I had to pay $3.64 and I had some spare change and different sized bills, I’d give the cashier a $5 bill and 64 cents to make their lives easier. If I tried that now, many cashiers’ brains would bluescreen.

I can stack quarters on my elbow and catch them with the same hand. Record is 25 at once

Cursive handwriting. Spent hours on that in elementary school that could have been used for something useful, like learning a second language.

Go check out the National Archives. They had a volunteer transcriber program where you can transcribe old, cursive documents that AI can't figure it. I've been doing it for a year and I absolutely love it!

TIL that in our upcoming war against AI, my cursive skills will help achieve victory. You should probably stop free transcribing asap.

Hell, my print handwriting would probably still confuse AI

I can drive a manual. Still a thing these days, but theyre very rare and most people can't.

Almost every car in the UK is a manual but that’ll die out with the increase of electric cars.

Same in Ireland, I recently heard that the amount of applications for automatic only drivers tests went up 50% over the last year or something.

Its dying out, but it'll take a while. Hopefully my gearstick becomes an antitheft device soon.

Same. I can start and drive a manual car from the middle of a steep incline without rollback.

And pop a clutch if the battery is dead!

Same. I bought a new car that had a manual transmission right after my 18th birthday in the mid-90s. Now most manual transmissions are in high-end performance cars, and electric cars will make them completely obsolete soon.

I can talk to people I don’t know in person.

I have beautiful cursive!

All those square dancing lessons in elementary gym class

Slave drive or master drive?

I can drive a standard transmission car, read a map or MAPSCO, go a whole day without touching my phone, write in cursive, and fix almost anything that breaks in my house without paying a professional.

I can tell the time using an analog clock.

I’m a bit confused by this, honestly. Is this a running joke or regional or something? And I’m genuinely asking here if anyone else wants to chime in.

My son was in 1st grade and he regularly came home with homework that had analog clocks and how to read them. My buddies son is also in 1st grade at another school and he knows it. Same with my 8 year old niece, same with the two 2nd and 5th grade neighbor kids next door. They all know what analog clocks are and more or less how to read them depending on what grade.

These are all normal, public schools in Texas.

In my experience: this is not a joke. Yes kids get exposed to this as a lesson at some point, but then it goes into the bucket of things taught in school that are forgotten after that lesson.

At least the 21-25 year olds we hire in the field, it’s pretty often that they don’t get what “10 o clock” means as a relative direction because it’s an analog clock metaphor. Same with addressing an envelope — like they all admit they’ve seen this in school a long time ago but also admit they don’t exactly recall how.

Idk your age but I feel like there are random things that I, as a 35 year old, were taught in school and don’t know anymore because it’s not part of my daily life. They’ve made TV contests about this stuff before, where adults are in a trivia contest with grade schoolers. It’s more the content shifts over time.

EDIT: Balancing a checkbook is another good old timey example. GenZ and younger millenials don't understand why checkbooks come with that spreadsheet because they just open an app on their phone to check the balance. They surely can figure out how to do the task as if it's a homework puzzle, but most 40 year old adults can fluently do it as a basic life skill and it would be common sense WHY this was an important practice.

Cursive, stick shift, and I know how to work the lights and wipers in a car where it's just unmarked knobs.

Kids these days can’t touch type as often as someone born when computer labs were still a thing. I knew how by or before middle school (thanks mom!) and I’m seeing kids chicken pecking at a grade they shouldn’t be - definitely wouldn’t be at touch type yet but they should know finger placement at 2nd and can type bit by bit even if they have to watch what they’re doing on the keyboard. I’m thinking of trying to teach a bit on this next year if I can work it into the schedule some with teachers and the librarian.

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

Fixing most of my own computer problems.

I read books.

Being able to go 5 mins w/o looking at my phone

I’m trying to re train my habits to stop doing this. I unconsciously pick up my phone EVERY TIME i have like 15 seconds, it’s awful

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